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When he was giving a campaign speech in Detroit for the 2000 election, Lieberman said that he didn't consider atheists or agnostics worthy of First Amendment protections because they weren't religious. To that, I give the finger, and most sincerely hope that he doesn't get the democratic nomination.

*Nobody* is unworthy of the First Amendment, no matter how much you disagree with them.

Sources for those who want them -

This link is the Internet Infidels' archive of news stories relating to governmental interference with non-believers and things of that nature.

A quote:

10/24/00, During a speech at Notre Dame University, Sen. Joe Lieberman again declared that "the Constitution promises freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. We are after all not just another nation, but 'one nation under God.'" (American Atheists' AANEWS)

Another quote:

08/27/00, Joe Lieberman, the Democratic Party's candidate for Vice-President, spoke to a Detroit church saying in part, "As a people, we need to reaffirm our faith and renew the dedication of our nation and ourselves to God and God's purpose." and "The Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion."(Associated Press)



Turkish surgeons remove giant hairball from teenager's stomach

Surgeons in eastern Turkey have removed a two-kilogram (more than for pounds) hairball from the stomach of a 17-year-old girl, the remnant of a childhood eating habit thought to be linked to psychological problems.

The hairball in her stomach is the result of the hair that she has eaten in her childhood... She has lived with it for the last 15 years," Enver Sultanoglu, the doctor who operated the girl in Van city told Anatolia news agency.

He said eating hair and wool was generally seen in young people suffering psychological problems.

Date: 2003-09-13 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliabee.livejournal.com
Wow...so people from other countries who've come here -- love this country -- or give to this country in many ways -- but don't believe in a Christian God - much less know anything about him -- and they aren't deserving of the First Amdendment?

I have such a hard time stomaching so many bits of stupidity recently. :|

He gets my finger right along with yours. :0)

Date: 2003-09-13 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
I think his primary focus was on athiests and agnostics, since he's an Orthodox Jew, not a Christian.

Someone in favor of basic American Rights is who I want in office.

Date: 2003-09-14 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliabee.livejournal.com
Ahh, I didn't know he's Jewish. :0)
I've known *some* Christians who are very against people of the Jewish faith (the Jesus not being the son of God thought).

Wonder if he'd be angry if a Christian candidate felt he wasn't eligible for basic rights because of his Jewish faith?

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else in LJ - hope more people become aware of his unfavorable views on atheists and agnostics.

Date: 2003-09-14 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
I would hope that anyone before making a blanket statement would turn it around, puting themselves on the focus point before saying stuff like he did.

Saying something like "Jews obviously have no first amendment rights, because they don't have my spiritual beliefs" would (and rightly so) raise a hell of an uproar, I'd think.

Date: 2003-09-13 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] argumentplease.livejournal.com
I really believe that conservative members of different religions have more in common with one another than they do with the liberal members of their own religions. Sheesh. I voted for Gore/Lieberman in 2000 because I didn't want Dubya in the White House, but I think the Democrats can do better.

Date: 2003-09-13 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
I think both sides can choose better alternates. :)

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