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I've been surfing the memberships of the communities I run, and saw something... "make a donation" buttons where there's no real charity involved.

a quote from the page in question -

I've been thinking a lot about energy exchange, and how this journal is working in my life in terms of energy exchange. More and more, I feel as though I am pouring these pieces of myself out into the world and receiving no energy in return.

Make no mistake, money is a form of energy. So, I've installed this donation system to allow those of you who want to give a little back in exchange to do so. There's no suggested amount, and no requirement to give. It's just a way to say "thanks" if you so desire.


Is it me, or does that seem sort of screwed up? Maybe it's just a fundamental difference in the approach to the journal idea than my own. I write in my journal for a number of reasons, as a notepad, a way to share myself in the form my views and findings with other people. I get enjoyment in the sharing aspect, and don't view it as "emptying out my energy" at all. Knowing that people read and enjoy what I write is quite a pleasant feedback...and when folks post a reply with something to add, that kind of feedback adds a great feeling in it's own right.

I can sorta-kinda understand the idea of a gift exchange, via a wish list or the like... I think it's the way it was put forth that strikes me as tacky or cheap, somehow, and maybe a bit seedy. It is on a volunteer basis, like a wish list. but doesn't it seem odd to say "I like your Journal, thanks for writing in it, here's $1"? It stops being a sharing, and turns into something else... not sure what.
The digital version of being a street performer, passing the hat?

The funny thing is, I have no problem with a writer being paid for their work. I've never viewed writing in a journal as work, though. It's more an act of release, and comfortable record keeping. I suppose it's all in the wording, and the reward... If you don't like writing, don't write. Somehow "Well, I'd enjoy it if I got paid for it" strikes me as the line you draw between a prostitute and a lover of the craft.

Ah well, to close on assorted cliches; your mileage may vary. To each their own, and all that. I hope everyone gets the energy that they want and deserve.

Date: 2002-01-01 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theshadowsouled.livejournal.com
It doesn't strike me as too *off*.

Different people put different value on money.

Some could see this as a legitimate expression of appriciation.

Others value money in other ways... Personally, I believe that Americans often view money with an almost religious fervor. Possibly other cultures do to, but I see mine more clearly than others do.

Personally, I enjoy my journal for itself... On the other hand, it a million people gave me $1 each... I would definitly enjoy it more. I wouldn't DO more... But My life would certainly CHANGE.

That would make an interesting experiment...
I should see if I can get 1 million people to pay me $1 to write an essay on how it changed my life...

Date: 2002-01-01 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theshadowsouled.livejournal.com
"but I see mine more clearly than others do."
secretly this meant:
"but I see mine more clearly than I do others."

definite difference in meaning there.

Re:

Date: 2002-01-01 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
I hear you there.

I don't have the same religious attachment to money that some people do... I imagine some of the folks out there that have a 100 or more friends could convince them to send a buck or two... somehow, I don't see anyone getting more than a grand out of it unless some sort of sex or violence were involved.

I'm sure some could see getting a dollar as a legit sense of appreciation, but I personally don't feel that way.

Date: 2002-01-01 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] argumentplease.livejournal.com
What I find intriguing is that there are so many wonderful sites containing quality writing and art that are completely and utterly free... so why would any one of us think that his or her work was singularly worth paying for, as opposed to anyone else's? Perhaps all of us deserve money for our words -- perhaps none of us do. It strikes me as strange when individuals attempt to distinguish themselves as deserving money, when most of the time their work isn't particularly deserving at all. It seems pretentious, frankly. Maybe that's just me being competitive, but that's my $0.02.

Maybe that should be the going rate -- if you're going to pay to get someone's $0.02, perhaps that's the perfect amount to lay out.

The way to make money from writing is to publish a book, collection, article, etc. that people pay in order to read. I've seen a few journal websites asking for payment before letting people read, but those tend to be of a pornographic nature. Right now, my aim is just to have a small audience for my writing. That's it. I am just trying to write as much as possible and be as honest as I dare. I am getting to know some readers personally, through reading their journals, but I'm not looking for admirers or items from my wishlist. I think that misses the whole point of why we're doing this.

Re:

Date: 2002-01-01 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
You and I are in *complete* agreement. The journallist I saw in particular is pretty mundane, no real highs or lows in writing from what I've seen.

Pretentious is a good word for my opinion of the person's personality, at least what I've viewed of it.

I think $.02 is a great amount to issue.

Your comments about making money are spot on. Admiriers and gifts are nice, but I do like the ability to pour out whatever you like in a centally located place.
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Date: 2002-01-01 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
the word solicitation says it all...

on the upside, all the journal's donations are voluntary... but flipside, it was delivered in a passive-agressive way, almost guilting someone to pay them.

I got a new RAW book for Christmas! :) A lot of fun.

Date: 2002-01-01 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artemii.livejournal.com
how crass.

Date: 2002-12-31 06:14 pm (UTC)

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