Hm.

[scottobear]

Well, this is interesting. I hear via the grapevine that my character is being assassinated in private posts by Lakme, and games are being played along the lines of "If you're my friend, you won't be his...".

That sort of stuff is just childish, if that is what's happening. being on the outside of Lakme's journal, and not a part of dotgirl or carrie's journals for quite a while, I don't have the whole story.

Here is my take on it, though, feel free to correct me in polite words if I'm wrong.

Lakme claims that I gave out my password to dotgirl, so she could continue to rea private entries of carrie's. Well, no. I don't give my password out to anyone, unless it's an admin in order to change to a new one. since that's done automatically by LJ, no human has been given it. Now, I'm not calling lakme a liar, because she could just be misinformed.

In all honesty, I do remember enjoying carrie's journal, but there's a lot of fish in the LJ sea, and I really have too many linktos on my friends list anyhow.

I do think it's strange, given Lakme's love of confrontation and combat that she hasn't attacked me publicly with her accusations, which is why I put the disclaimer "grapevine" comment at the front. last conflict I had with her was months ago, about me dropping her from my friends list. I hear that there's some sort of proof, but nobody has seen it. I'll be interested in seeing or hearing what it is, if it exists at all, as I've not done any of what I hear I've been accused of.

Folks who know me, and read both lakme and myself no doubt will see some very real personality differences... I for one, do not delete my journal in an "on-line suicide" in order to get attention from folks that read my journal. I try to work things out, or if that doesn't work, I walk away from the fight, if there's no logic in it.

I don't think of myself as an angry person, or needy for attention. If folks would like to unlink, or link to my page, well, have a nice trip, and welcome aboard respectively. I really don't know the bulk of you folks... most of you are quite nice, friendly, and offer a clever comment or just a friendly wave. I won't be mad if you leave, though. This journal is for me and stuff I find to be fun... you're welcome to visit whenever you like. Longtime linkers here know that my posts are either public or totally private. I think that I've posted probably 5 or so friends only posts, and even then it was pretty much the same as I have here out in public.

This whole "my friend your friend" thing smacks of the politics of high school. Hang with who you want to hang with. Take advice or don't. Good luck with whatever you decide, and I hope you do well.

Just so everyone knows, my journal is staying as long as LJ allows it. People that get outraged with me and my friends are welcome to continue to be so in public or private, but they are not welcome to treat my friends cruelly, unfairly or without kindness.

Comments

[lique.livejournal.com]

You know ... my greatest wish for LJ-land at the moment is that everyone else on the face of the earth would just butt out of that mess already. It seems anytime anyone screws up around here, a faction of people suddenly feel as though it's their right to be quite personally involved and often worse, start playing witch hunt.

*sigh*

Human nature I suppose. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

sounds like a plan to me.

I'm just trying to clear the air, and make sure none of my pals are being hurt.

[lique.livejournal.com]

:) You've never struck me as the conniving sort, and I'd hardly claim to know you as well as some around here ... I probably wouldn't worry about the people you know getting too caught in the middle.

thanks. :)

[scottobear.livejournal.com]

i'm mostly concerned about kruss... she seems to have taken the brunt of it. She's a sweetie, and doesn't deserve to be slapped around.

[hissyfit.livejournal.com]

well-said, scotto. and i agree totally. i've accidentily gotten myself mixed up in a couple of the lj dramas, and i tried to get out asap! it's insane. the only reason that i ever post as friends only is when i'm upset by a friend of mine and want advice on the situation without them reading it and getting upset, or i'm upset about something that other people feel that i don't have the right to be upset about and would get mad about me posting. i don't like to have to hide what i have or need to say, but sometimes it's necessary to protect myself. good luck, and lets hope that it stops without any further action necessary.

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[lique.livejournal.com]

Sort of like watching innocent bystanders hit, no? Such a shame.

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[krussell.livejournal.com]

well hell. i'd defend you again if i had to do it over again. like i keep saying, it is my right to choose my friends.

i hate getting in the middle of these things, and lately i thought i had been doing better. but really, i was being attacked too, because of my choice. which is preposterous, when you think about it. so it's not like it is your fault in any way. i took the bait. :)

[krussell.livejournal.com]

(i suppose i shouldn't be consorting with you since you are of the Other Side...)

i just gotta say that "disavowed" is a terrific word, and the most accurate one i have heard all day!

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[nbbmom.livejournal.com]

I'm glad that you're taking charge of your feelings over this. Your only true allegiance is to yourself and to your family.

And the one thing that never sat right with me in this whole thing has been the password thing. I would never ever give my password out to anyone (Bobby included). I can't imagine giving it out to someone on LJ.

Scotto, I'm still new to your world but I have elected not to get caught up in this either. I like Lakme, I like you, & I don't know the other parties involved.

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry someone did that to you! I don't remember hearing about it, but hopefully you didn't take it too hard.

same folks and situation?

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

Fair enough! read who you like and have fun.. this isn't the place to start fights. :)

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

I appreciate that... and I'm happy you're happy with your choice. hang in there. :)

[mauracelt.livejournal.com]

I had heard"through the grapevine" as you so aptly put it, that there was something amiss, but I was not aware of what it was. I appaud yuo for taking so up front and open a stand in whatever it is that has been going on, since it apparently involves you.

You were one of my first friends here and will remain as long as you want. People come and go all the time, that's the world. I like you and the stuff you share with us and the little reminders of being at one with the world as best we can be. It's comforting to know that at least one person out there really does give a damn about things.

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

Thanks, M.

I appreciate your kind words.

[lakme.livejournal.com]

This is bullshit, Scott.

I didn't attack you publically because I didn't see the need. I wanted to warn my friends that I share with you that you weren't to be trusted with private entries, because you let Penny see Carrie's.

You can deny it till the sky falls. But Penny told me it was you when I was in her good graces. She specifically mentioned on ICQ one day that she was glad you had gotten back on Carrie's friends list. She named you by name.

I told Carrie when we reconciled. She removed you for the second time. We were sitting on ICQ talking, and Penny tried to view the private entries and suddenly had no access. You were the only person removed at this point.

Penny is a lot of things, but she's not prone to lying, especially when she's bragging about how she stalks Carrie. It says very much when you are removed, and suddenly she has no access when previously she did. I think you did it. I think it's plain and simple.

I don't know you, and I have nothing against you save for that. It is plain old wrong to give out anyone's private entries. I told my friends because I didn't want them to have the same thing happen-plenty of them have stalkers of their own to worry about. What they choose to do is up to them.

But I will point out that I have better things to do than to make up lies about you. I don't know you. There would be no point to that. It was simply out of concern for my friends. I didn't want you doing this to someone else.

I have no patience for liars and sneaks, and if you'd do that to Carrie, what would stop you from doing it to someone else?

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[mauracelt.livejournal.com]

*BIGHUGS*

[billijean.livejournal.com]

There are two reasons I don't believe the accusation: the "proof" is not convincing to me and that you would do this is completely contrary to my opinion of you.
The conclusion is mine and I take full responsiblity for it. And I claim my right to it. I also, under all circumstances claim my right to choose who my friends are and to refuse to participate in tests of loyalty and friendship.
The last two days have really sucked. I am hurt and I am sad. But I would do it again in a heartbeat. I have no choice, because to do otherwise would be be untrue to myself.

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[billijean.livejournal.com]

Yes.

[dotgirl.livejournal.com]

Scottobear doesn't deserve to be raked across the coals. He's done nothing wrong. Period. If he's ever given anyone his password, it certainly wasn't me.

I'm on hiatus from LJ for a while, but this was called to my attention by some friends, and I wanted to address it. I don't mind sitting by and letting myself be badmouthed, but I'm not about to let it happen to a perfectly innocent person.

As for the clamouring to know who *did* give me the password - I'm sorry, but that is not going to happen. If the person comes forward of their own accord, that's fine, but it is not my right to out anyone.

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

I never called you a liar, I did in fact say that you could be misinformed, or mistaken. We can ask Penny, since you claim she's not prone to lying, and find out.

You're welcome to think what you like, but it seems to me that drawing those conclusions might be pretty presumptuous. Who knows what dotgirl had in her cache before reloading it?

I wouldn't give my password out, so, no worries there. I'm not in the business of hurting people. Perhaps in the future you can do a little more research before slandering someone? I think if you look at my character, you'll see that I'm not interested in being cruel.

Thank you for answering my request for more information, and keeping it civil.

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to help clear those accusations.

[monkey.livejournal.com]

"oh, the irony"

(insert large smirk here)

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

I hope you can continue to be true to yourself, and I appreciate your confidence in my character.

Something that surprises me is how many people didn't let me know *didn't * let me know I was being badmouthed.

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

awwww *bighugs*

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

hm? could you clarify? I hope it's a happy irony. :)