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Navy approves first ever Satanist

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3948329.stm

The British Armed Forces has officially recognised its first registered Satanist, a newspaper reports. Naval technician Chris Cranmer, 24, has been allowed to register by the captain of HMS Cumberland, based at Devonport Naval Base in Plymouth.

The move will mean that he will now be allowed to perform Satanic rituals on board the vessel.

According to the Sunday Telegraph, Mr Cranmer realised he was a Satanist nine years ago.

Religious values

Mr Cranmer said that was when he stumbled across a copy of the Satanic Bible, written by Church of Satan founder Anton Szandor LaVey.

He said: "I then read more and more and came to realise I'd always been a Satanist, just simply never knew."

Mr Cranmer, who is from Edinburgh, is now lobbying the Ministry of Defence to make Satanism a registered religion in the armed forces.

Former Tory minister Ann Widdecombe said she was "utterly shocked" by the Royal Navy's decision.

"Satanism is wrong. Obviously the private beliefs of individuals anywhere, including the armed forces, are their own affair but I hope it doesn't spread."

She added: "The Navy should not permit Satanist practices on board its ships.

"God himself gives free will, but I would like to think that if somebody applied to the Navy and said they were a Satanist today it would raise its eyebrows somewhat."

A spokesman for the Royal Navy said: "We are an equal opportunities employer and we don't stop anybody from having their own religious values."

The path to Satan

The Church of Satan was established in San Francisco in 1966.

Mr LaVey was its high priest until his death in 1997.

Followers live by the Nine Satanic Statements, which include "Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence", "Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek" and "Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification".

Doug Harris, director of the Reachout Trust, an evangelical Christian ministry that "builds a bridge of reason" to those involved in cults and the occult, says the statements are "selfish".

"Following such tenets and working them out practically in your life seems to produce a selfish person not a member of a team," he said.

Date: 2004-10-25 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sida-al-hurra.livejournal.com
Never mind being a team player, how do they feel about murder?

Date: 2004-10-25 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
I guess it depends on what sect he's in?

I wonder how the Navy could get around the murder thing... they shoot guns and drop bombs.

Date: 2004-10-25 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sida-al-hurra.livejournal.com
Interesting. I'm going to have to read up on this a little.

Date: 2004-10-25 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
Interesting that the UK has accepted "Jedi" as a religion, too.

Date: 2004-10-25 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eryx-uk.livejournal.com
Thats because enough people made a joke of it.

There was a census taken a couple years back where if there was X number of people put the same thing down for religion it would be recognised. So of course, everyone and their brother put Jedi down and it made it in.

Date: 2004-10-25 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
That kind of humor, I can appreciate.

what are services like? everyone gets together and plays x-wing?

note to self- re, the popes big ol' hat.

Date: 2004-10-25 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
Probably the most recognizable article of clothing the Pope wears is the tall, gaping hat called the mitre. Why does he where this? Where did it come from? There's nothing in the Bible that indicates that Jesus wore such a hat. Why does the Pope? The fact is the origin of the hat goes back long before Jesus and can be traced to an ancient Babylonian god named Dagon.


http://members.aol.com/davecrnll/hat.html

Date: 2004-10-25 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eryx-uk.livejournal.com
Most so-called Satanists aren't into murder and the evil nonsense attributed to them. Most (at least here in the UK) are more like your normal pagan types, believing in free will. Their faith is not similar to christianity at all.

Still, its an odd situation. It certainly has opened a can of worms for the future.

Date: 2004-10-25 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
Start to worry when someone puts "Cthulhu" on his membership card.

Date: 2004-10-25 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eryx-uk.livejournal.com
*Coughs* Been there and done that. :)

Date: 2004-10-25 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
d'oh!

Conflict of interests!

Date: 2004-10-25 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sida-al-hurra.livejournal.com
all of the so-called sins

That phrase is why I was wondering about murder.

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