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Each year the staff at Beloit College in Wisconsin puts Together a list to try to give the faculty a sense of the mindset of that year's incoming freshmen.

Here is this year's list:

The people who are starting college this fall across the Nation were born in 1982.

They have no meaningful recollection of the Reagan Era and probably did not know he had ever been shot.

They were prepubescent when the Persian Gulf War was waged.

Black Monday 1987 is as significant to them as the Great Depression.

There has been only one Pope.

They were 11 when the Soviet Union broke apart and do not Remember the Cold War.

They have never feared a nuclear war.

They are too young to remember the space shuttle blowing up.

Tiananmen Square means nothing to them.

Their lifetime has always included AIDS.

Bottle caps have always been screw off and plastic.

Atari predates them, as do vinyl albums. The statement "you sound like a broken record" means nothing to them. They have never owned a record
player.

They have likely never played Pac Man and have probably never Heard of Ping-Pong.

They may have never heard of an 8 track.

The Compact Disc was introduced when they were 1 year old.

As far as they know, stamps have always cost about 33 cents.

They have always had an answering machine.

Most have never seen a TV set with only 13 channels, nor have they seen a black-and-white TV.

They have always had cable.

There has always been VCRs, but they have no idea what BETA is.

They cannot fathom not having a remote control.

They were born the year that Walkman were introduced by Sony.

Roller-skating has always meant inline for them.

Jay Leno has always been on the Tonight Show.

They have no idea when or why Jordache jeans were cool.

Popcorn has always been cooked in the microwave.

They have never seen Larry Byrd play.

They never took a swim and thought about Jaws.

The Vietnam War is as ancient history to them as WWI, WWII and the Civil War.

They have no idea that Americans were ever held hostage in Iran.

They can't imagine what hard contact lenses are.

They don't know who Mork was or where he was from.

They never heard: Where's the beef?, I'd walked a mile for a Camel, or de plane, de plane.

They do not care who shot J.R. and have no idea who J.R. is.

The Titanic was found? They thought we always knew where it was.

Michael Jackson has always been white.

Kansas, Chicago, Boston, America, and Alabama are places, not groups.

McDonalds never came in Styrofoam containers.

There has always been MTV.

They don't have a clue how to use a typewriter.
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Fogie-ism

Date: 2000-09-28 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lique.livejournal.com
You know, I'm not exactly an old fogie compared to the age group they're speaking of, and still most of what they're trying to get across doesn't hold true with regards to me ..... but then again, I was a '79 kid who grew up watching the Munsters and listening to The Band, so maybe my youth was a little prehistoric for the given era. ;) And I do remember the challenger, and the opening broadcast of MTV, and Johnny Carson, and the cold war, and I have an 8-track of me no less, and remember a black Michael, and BETA, and ... and I take it back. I AM an old fogie. ;) *sigh*

I hate that

Date: 2000-09-28 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoe.livejournal.com
Every year (sometimes more than that) these lists come out and more and more it is completely freakie to me. I appreciate that no one post 1980 remembers regan (who really wants to even he doesn't remember Regan as president - ha! I made a funnie!) but man no vinyl records? No Mork? No asteroids on the Atari in the basement? really?!

Re: Fogie-ism

Date: 2000-09-28 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
that's ok, you're apparently in good company! Hmm... I notice all the 'smart girls' (that're online) reacted first...I wonder if that's a telling statement.

Re: I hate that

Date: 2000-09-28 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
no albums... I think I was issued a frampton live album as part of my reisidency in the 70's. I'm amazed that so much has changed... these kids were born after star wars!

Re: Huh. I'm old too.

Date: 2000-09-28 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
old is a place in the mind....

You seem mentally young, and spry. you'll do ok, I think.

Re: I hate that

Date: 2000-09-28 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoe.livejournal.com
eeek! I thought star wars was the sequel to a star is born... I was sooooo pissed when mom and dad made us go to the Continental (a big screen house) to see it over Christmas break. Furious. I was so mad at the time that Mom would make me go and see some Barbara Streisand flick. Do these people going into school even know who she is? I could go on!

i could get really mad

Date: 2000-09-28 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] risingentropy.livejournal.com
I'm a little offended by the line of commentary I see here.

Hello, I'm Chelsea. I'm an eighteen-year old college freshman. I am not an idiot. I am not oblivious.

I am annoyed.

Re: Reelin' In The Years

Date: 2000-09-28 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
I think that's a good way to look at it. not knowledge so much a sa different experiance.

List

Date: 2000-09-28 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kundalinidreams.livejournal.com

I must be sort of on middle ground here. I can remember most of the things on the list, like Tiananmen Square, and of course, the fall of the Berlin wall and the end of the cold war, fearing nuclear war etc and I know who Mork is. But there are some things I can't remember, never learned to use a type writer properly, a time before Atari and C64s... :-) The list does make me feel bloody old though.... 1982 ? That was when Duran Duran and Bladerunner ruled. :-)
Thanks for the list, that was a thought provoker.

Date: 2000-09-28 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tarpo.livejournal.com
God that makes me feel old.. 76 wasn't THAT long ago was it?

but I still have some records.. and a working Atari.. and a colecovision.. and an intelly..

but I thinks thats because I am a geek....

Date: 2000-09-29 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
When I was born, Eisenhower was president

listless

Date: 2000-09-29 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] legs312121.livejournal.com
to have never seen larry byrd and the players of his generation ... ... i wouldn't trade that for the fountain of youth ... .

Re: listless

Date: 2000-09-29 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetalyssm.livejournal.com
gee, I feel old now. 30 is getting closer and closer...

Re: Fogie-ism

Date: 2000-09-29 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lique.livejournal.com
Well, if one has to be cliqued with someone, "smart girls" is not a bad category. ;)

Re: Fogie-ism

Date: 2000-09-29 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
for what it's worth, I tend to hang with smart girls here on the net. :)

Re: Fogie-ism

Date: 2000-09-29 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lique.livejournal.com
I tend to gravitate more towards the digitized smart boys. ;)

Nanu Nanu... Video Killed the Radio Star :P

Date: 2000-09-29 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ldy.livejournal.com
I'm happy to know many wonderful folk of many different ages. I'm guessing the majority of my online friends were born in the late 70s/early 80s... which is why I'm sometimes referred to as the OLD lady. ;) (To clarify, I'm less than a year older than you :P) It certainly does offer a different perspective on things! (Usually, a welcome one-- changes in perspective are most often welcome.)

Here's some food for thought...
Remember Happy Days? How distant and far away the 50s seemed when it was on?
Well, That 70s Show is equally as distant in time now, as Happy Days was then.

Did I just give you chills? ;)

Enjoy your Medimucil, dear :)

Lesson in perspective

Date: 2000-09-29 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papoose.livejournal.com
I find the reactions as interesting as the list.
It is interesting to think about the Vietman War and some of those other things as ancient history. I'ts also interesting to see that, no matter how old (or young) a person is, they have that 'age is creeping up on me' feeling.
I remember all of that stuff and more.
I don't feel old - it's just my body that tells me so.

Re: Lesson in perspective

Date: 2000-09-29 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
I don't feel terribly old either...just surprised how much oddball stuff gets shoved into brain-corners.

Re: Fogie-ism

Date: 2000-09-29 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
;) Well, then you're just that much smarter, then! :)

hehe.

Date: 2000-09-29 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ibrad.livejournal.com
Hey, I was born in 1985 and that list doesn't seem very true!

I knew Reagan was shot.

I don't know about Black Monday 1987, but I do know quite a bit about the Great Depression.

I fear nuclear war. Nuclear weapons are still present today, lest you forget, in Communist countries at that.

I've opened my share of non-plastic bottle caps, including those from coke and pepsi bottles, the little metal ones.

I've had TVs with 10 channels.

I've not had cable all my life.

I know what BETA is, it was a much better solution to video cassette recording, as opposed to VHS, but it never took off.

I've been to quite a few roller-skate parties and roller skating rinks where it's not hardly all inline.

I have watched Mork and Mindy! That show was pretty hilarious, I love Robin WIlliams.

I used a typewriter for many years before we got a computer and a printer that worked...

Re: hehe.

Date: 2000-09-29 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ibrad.livejournal.com
oh, and are you referring to knot's landing?

Re: hehe.

Date: 2000-09-29 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
bravo! well, maybe they were wrong! It's good to know that there are a couple of folks with a similar perspective, even though they're much younger... you and lab rat both. :)

WHO CARES

Date: 2000-09-29 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-bjorn905.livejournal.com
the new generation of curmudgeons rears its ugly collective head.

Re: WHO CARES

Date: 2000-09-29 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottobear.livejournal.com
yup! get ready, because next decade, they get to roll over a new one!
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